PATTY CULLITON ([email protected])
Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:58:48, -0500
You say there is no evidence of the disappearances. The evidence is
in that these men and boys never came home. Was this one mass "Dear
John" letter? The men and boys in all these families all decided to
stage a big farce so they could all leave their wives and mothers at
once, to head to the playboy mansion? I would like to see you tell
the wives and mothers to their faces that their husbands and sons are
not really missing. (And yes, I know one of the sisters of the
disappeared.)
>>the stories people hear outside Chile seem to come out of a cheesy
political drama.<<
Where did the stories come from? Do you think the people of the rest
of the world spend their time making up stories about Chile each week?
>>They've told you that...Pinochet killed and tortured thousands of
people. The truth is... Pinochet never ordered to kill anyone<<
How can you say this with conviction unless you have spent every
waking hour with him for the last 25 years?
>>Don't get me wrong, some people died, but that's because of the
situation the country was in at that moment. The communists had to be
taken out of the government and force was used, the communists fought
back. In other words, a civil war.<<
This accounts for deaths in 1973. What about in all the years after
that?
>>But let me ask you something, who is sorry about all the soldiers
who died on that day?, the communists were not innocent little white
doves! they had terrorist groups to back them up!<<
BECAUSE THE COMMUNISTS WERE ALSO WRONG DOES NOT MAKE PINOCHET'S
REGIME RIGHT! THIS IS WHERE YOUR THINKING IS FRACTURED.
And in fact, if communism had remained the reigning force in Chile
that country would most likely have become free in 1989 rather than
still lumbering under Pinochet's dictatorship for several years more.
>>soldiers are people too, they have families, they love, they are
normal people who one day decided they had to dedicate their lives to
defend their country, a lot of them died, but does anyone give a shit
about them?<<
Obviously you have someone in your family who was a soldier?
>>Did you know that during the communist government you had to wait
about 3 hours just to be able to buy one piece of bread?<<
So it's better that a dictator run the country so that it's more
convenient to buy bread? (And people say we are obsessed with
capitalism in the U.S.!)
>>and just one! you weren't allowed to have more!, money was useless,
there was nothing you could buy.<<
Do you not understand that you are talking here about the lesser (or
greater) of two evils? Just because you don't want communism doesn't
mean you have to settle for totalitarianism.
>>Pinochet had to do what nobody else dared to do.<<
So what you are saying is that Pinochet did this to "free Chile" and
not for personal gain and personal power? If this is indeed the case,
then why did he install a dictatorship rather than a republic?
>>I love U2. But I think Bono is wrong in talking about something he
knows nothing about<<
Sometimes people *elsewhere* have access to more information about a
situation than people there do.
Case in point: in 1990 I traveled for the first time to outside of
North America (I have been out dozens of times now). And I was
*amazed* at the truths that were said on the news in Europe about the
U.S. and U.S. involvement. Because these things were never mentioned
in the U.S. -- and we are supposed to have one of the free-est
presses in the world.
>>but, as I said before, I don't blame him since what he knows is
just the crap the media is giving him, things such as this which I
read on Wire yesterday:<<
You say this, yet you don't recognize that your thought process is
operating from what the media under Pinochet fed to you for 20 years?
ITNOL, Patty
______
"Not one leaf moves in this country unless I move it."
-Gen. Augusto Pinochet.
Yeah? Well you're not in Kansas anymore General.
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